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Turkist Narrative, Culture

People have an Asia Minor do have a culture, but they name that culture incorrectly. The migrants who arrived in Anatolia melted away, assimilated into, and became part of the larger culture they arrived in. Their effect was minimal, proportional to their size [1]. Current narrative has them arriving, finding the place empty [4], and remaining as they were for a thousand years, bringing "civilization" to Anatolia.

I estimate the arrival of new ppl starting from 600s and continuing for a few centuries seems to be around 1 million arriving into a population of 8 million.

Genetic research proves [2] biologically only 9% of genetic structure (95% CI 7-11) of today's Anatolia is of Asiatic origin. Culture effects are always proportional with size, 90% of the culture of today's culture in non-Turkic.

A new label is needed, one is not as retarded and full of misinformation as the one in use now.

Similarities

Food

Organized agriculture was invented in Anatolia and its nearby regions, over 10,000 years ago ("Turk" migration is little over 1000 yrs old). So it should be no surprise inventions around food, tasty recipes, preservation methods were first invented there, not by nomads.

Yogurt was invented in the Mediterrenian region, Herodotus talks about it in the 5th century B.C.

The Turkish coffee is a Yemenese invention. I'm talking about using coffee beans ground into a fine powder, then boiled in a little brass pot. This product is called different names by countries, with many laying claim on its discovery. But since the first-use was in Yemen, it should be called Yemenese coffee.

Asia Minor tarhana soup is actually one of the oldest foods in the Eastern Mediterranean called in Greek trahana, it was traditionally made in August as an ingenious method of preserving milk for the cold winter months by combining the dairy with the wheat and leaving in the hot summer sun to dry over a few days.

Döner (meaning 'it turns') is similar to Greek gyro, Arabic shawarma, or Armenian tarna (which literally means to turn) are all variations of the same idea that were served all over the place in Eastern Europe and Middle East, for thousands of years.

Music

Below is Byzantine music which sounds awefully similar to "Turkish art music", sanat müziği.

Song 1, Song 2, Song 3, Song 4, Song 5, Song 6

Why the Subterfuge

The reasons are many.

Problems

Turkist narrative suffers from multitude of problems.

[F]ollowing the Turkish War of Independence in which Greece (The Ottoman Empire had lost Greece as part of its territory by this time) invaded Turkey in hope of a Greater Greece but was repelled, the 1923 Treaty of Lausanne was drawn up in the peace settlement. This is a very sad part of history as both Greece and Turkey agreed to a mutual exchange of populations, irrespective of those populations’ wishes. Greece expelled approximately 600,000... while the Turks expelled about 750,000 Anatolian[s]... (some were allowed to stay in Istanbul). These figures differ, depending on the source. In deciding ethnicity, the criterion used was religion. A Turkish-speaking Orthodox Christian in Turkey was thus considered Greek, and expelled to Greece, while a Greek-speaking Muslim who knew no Turkish was considered Turkish and expelled to Turkey

Even a century later the legacy of such unfavorable meaning remains. I've seen well-educated people, proud citizens who loved their country, best and brightest of their generation, working for top corporations and still using the word in non-favorable terms. One time such a group called their somewhat heavily-built wrestler-type friend being of a "Turkish built". And the man would be offended by this. If The Identity is something that is supposed to describe everyone, why does it fall short in so many different ways, can only work as case-by-case basis, depending on context, region, and person. This sounds to me the nationalisation plan wasn't fully thought through, haphazardly done, without proper understanding. I believe it's high time to abdandon it. Anatolians need to accept there is no such thing as Turk.

References

[1] Population

[2] Turkish Population Structure and Genetic Ancestry

[3] Trahana

[4] National Narratives, Migrations, Anatolia

[5] A Nostalgia for Modernism

[6] Gellner, Nations and Nationalism